[monkeychunks]

lol. Why are you all so focused on an exit? For crying out loud, are you not aware that adding an exit could plausibly remove the entrances? How many people would close up their portal knowing good and well they could profit immensely from endstone, enchantments, and ender pearls? An endermen farm can potentially get you to level 30 in 50 seconds to 2 minutes. Quad grinders can do level 30 in a minimum average of 4.3 minutes. I'm sure few people would want to share that especially since there is only one end and it is a limited size.

There is no exit because it could put too much control and profit in the hands of few people. No matter how much knowledge or time one player has, he or she may never have control of that market. That's why it's unfair.

Is disabling an exit vanilla? Nope. But being disallowed from entering the end isn't vanilla either. That's due to the realm system (hence "semi-vanilla"). If there were no block protection, THEN an exit might be allowed because the end would be fair game to everyone.

Ya but it is very dangerous for everyone using one grinder making it a challenge, and unpredictable. Plus you say he or she will never have control over the market. Id say it is better for a market not to be run by one person. I don't think all the end portals will be blocked off if accepted anyways. Some of the end portal owners arnt even active and would probly care less.

[Ryu Aurora]

they tend to go with the opinions of their "allies" and stick with them regardless of the merit of the actual suggestion. MineRealm is party politics, plain and simple.

There is no exit because it could put too much control and profit in the hands of few people. No matter how much knowledge or time one player has, he or she may never have control of that market. That's why it's unfair.

Is disabling an exit vanilla? Nope. But being disallowed from entering the end isn't vanilla either. That's due to the realm system (hence "semi-vanilla"). If there were no block protection, THEN an exit might be allowed because the end would be fair game to everyone.

Put all realms containing End portals under my control. I have no allies, and can't be bothered to control a market that I don't actually need or use to begin with.

The End is too interesting to be left to rot. I voted yes on this simply because the idea of a way out is intriguing and appealing, and would provide more growth for builds.

Now I'm bored and I want to murder a couple of arguments.

If the End has an exit, it will just be ripped up for Endstone so people can profit.

I am going to assume that the people making this argument haven't seen the crash of Glowstone when villagers could trade it to you for garbage like wheat and sugarcane, and I'll further assume that these people have never been to the End and seen the colossal amount of Endstone in it.

Were the portals in neutral hands (I am neutral, Intelli would be neutral, and a series of veterans who are not tools are rather neutral as well) then the "market" for Endstone would be worthless. There's a huge amount of that ungodly disgusting trash in there. When working on an island in it months and months ago, I ripped up chest after chest of it without a second thought. What I moved is barely able to be seen or even noticed.

It will crash the enchantment market!

Just like the level change crashed the enchantment market, or the books now needing more material crashed the market, or the introduction of my lack of care about crashing the market crashed the market. Do you see where this is going?

The market will survive with very little complication. Cutting the time down to pump out enchantments is a GOOD thing. It means more is made, more is sold, more is used. When your products are more accessible, easier to manufacture, and more widely used, where is the downside? It will devalue the hoarded wealth of a few players?

Protip - Stop investing in things that have already been altered by updates, things that are going to have a change in value, and things that are able to be mass produced. Find something safe to invest in. Make smart investments. Things like undeveloped/developed LAND, which will not lose value, LAND is REALMS, which have a base value of 10,000 credits, and that is hardly about to change. More land being added to the map? It'll still be 10,000 credits to buy it.

Or stop investing all your money into items and use it to buy things to build on the server (which won't happen, because it never happens).

Blah Blah Blah I'm not quoting this crap anymore.

Bottom line.

-An exit to the End is vanilla.
-It opens up more land to develop and explore.
-It provides the opportunity for ambitious players to create amazing floating void cities.
-It will not crash the market, and those of you voting to protect the value of your hideous investments should sell those blocks immediately or use them for something.
-At the worst, it makes items and a useless block more affordable for newer players.
-93% of you won't read this.
-5% of you will skim over this at best.
-2% of you will actually read this.

TL;DR

Yeah, I know (most of) you didn't read it.

[DragonSlayer155]

-An exit to the End is vanilla.
-It opens up more land to develop and explore.
-It provides the opportunity for ambitious players to create amazing floating void cities.
-It will not crash the market, and those of you voting to protect the value of your hideous investments should sell those blocks immediately or use them for something.
-At the worst, it makes items and a useless block more affordable for newer players.
-93% of you won't read this.
-5% of you will skim over this at best.
-2% of you will actually read this.

TL;DR

Yeah, I know (most of) you didn't read it.

I read it.
Lisen to ryu guys. End of. DOnt argue. accept you lost. Endstone has no uses anyway. Creepers cant blow up and niether can tnt. so wats the point. (WHy not give it to me? )

Also, wat if Jeb implemented moar end things?

[MEMYYSELFANDME!!]

Actually, unboundstriker's suggestion isn't needed to be asked about because it is legit and allowed. All a player needs to do is for ONLY ONE player to get an enderchest in the wild, then they can access their resources to mine the endstone. Go into the endstone portal. Place the enderchest. Get all the stuff you want from the end into your enderchest. Then just wait to be killed for something so you can get to spawn. BunaliciousBound you surprise me again!! This suggestion might not be needed at all then.

[Bu1ld0g]

Enderchests are disabled in the end though

[Surgeonbsg]

I read your post Ryu. Just so you know not everyone is skimming it.

I'll add that back when The Enderdragon was wiped from the server it was said a couple of times, from Intelli, that The End would be wiped and reset. Why it never happened I have no idea. An exit from The End is very much a vanilla part of Minecraft. Just as being able to user an Enderchest to transfer goods from The Nether and End into the Overworld. Why that ability was removed I have no idea either. To make it more dangerous perhaps? Let us also remember the only reason Endstone exists in the Overworld now is because of a glitch. Nether portals were used to escape originally. That functionality was not intended. Kind've like the circle stone brick that glitched in back in the day and is no longer allowed. By that reasoning should all Endstone on the Overworld map be removed from chests and builds?

[eah]

By that reasoning should all Endstone on the Overworld map be removed from chests and builds?

Sounds good to me. As with the chiseled stone brick, endstone sale transactions would need reversing. This should leave Torn with like -500,000 credits >:D

[Unbound]

By that reasoning should all Endstone on the Overworld map be removed from chests and builds?

Sounds good to me. As with the chiseled stone brick, endstone sale transactions would need reversing. This should leave Torn with like -500,000 credits >:D

A bit harsh but whatever it takes. Idk why people just dont suggest the use of enderchests. Simple as that.

[monkeychunks]

I have no idea why most of minerealm does not want to be able to exit the end. I guess most of minerealm wants the end to remain useless. I am done for now suggesting stuff for the end, but if anyone wants to suggest enabling enderchests they can. Thank you for your opinions .
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